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What do you like least about Bays Precinct today? For example, there is currently no public access.
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Comment 1 3 Jul 2009, 6:50 AM
WE Need quick outcomes , BUT always these process take far to long. I want to enjoy this precinct now. So masterplan and commence the vision So I can go boating in the Bay Precinct, before I am to old
Comment 1.1 4 Jul 2009, 8:53 PM
There is nothing stopping you from going boating on any of the three bays now, but there will be when its all privatised!
Comment 2 4 Jul 2009, 9:58 AM
I fear this public consultation phase is just a whitewash and an excuse for further delay: the Government has already made up its mind???
Comment 2.1 4 Jul 2009, 8:47 PM
I agree Malcolm, the whole place is going to be a mega marina complex. All one will see of the water is a narrow channel and the rest of the bay will basically be a parking lot for mega stink boats. Unfortunatley we'll not only loose access to the foreshore but it will become increasingly dangerous to paddle out of Rozelle Bay as well. As for the marine life - its doomed.
Comment 2.2 8 Jul 2009, 5:03 PM
I agree, I don't think the government can be trusted given the recent announcments about approval for development without any consultation or apparent consideration of any master plan.
Comment 2.2.1 14 Jul 2009, 11:14 PM
Wholeheartedly agree julieg. We've been taken for a ride on too many other projects around here, what makes you think that they'll listen here?
BTW, I notice that the Bang the Table site software is being used on all the projects no one wants approved (Newcastle rail corridor removal, Sydney Metro, now this...) It's something of a pattern.
Comment 3 6 Jul 2009, 3:46 PM
I don't like
- the derelict power station - this could be something magical, like the Tate Gallery in London
- the megayacht harbour - every day I go past, and think "what a waste", as those boats hardly ever move, and block off so much of the harbour
- the opening/closure of the Glebe Island Bridge - how about treating it like the Spit Bridge, with designated opening hours, with cycle/pedestrian access for the rest of the time?
- the relocation of the cruise ship terminal from Barangaroo to White Bay being announced without consultation, on a Saturday, five days before Christmas. This more…
Comment 3.1 14 Jul 2009, 11:13 PM
I agree with all except the commercial shipping. A little bit staying in the harbour wouldn't be too bad, providing that it's done sensitively and in an environmentally-friendly way.
Our harbour is massive - large-scale ships used to go up as far as Homebush. There's no reason why that still can't happen (albeit on a smaller scale).
Comment 4 8 Jul 2009, 4:10 PM
I hate that its empty and derelict, a sad, tragic place and a symbol of political cowardice.
This government has caved in to the Balmain yuppies and destroyed a vital economic resource for Sydney – its working harbour.
I haven't any doubt what will now happen. Ms Keneally will cave in again in a desperate attempt to save Verity Firth and Carmel Tebbutt. She will give the so-called green votes another big empty space for their dogs.
But that won't work... They have already made up their minds. Be brave, Ms Keneally. Make a decision which reflects our whole State's needs, not just a few wealthy nearby property owners.
And keep the deep water port functional.
Comment 4.1 13 Jul 2009, 7:20 PM
White bay is actually quite good now. I don't see any pollution coming from the area now that those stinking ships are finally gone along with their dispicable cargo of cars. Good riddance to the industrial past - lets move forwards to a new era of clean environments and healthy living.
Jem could always move to Kurnell to sniff the refinery fumes and marvel at the planes and cargo ships.
Comment 5 9 Jul 2009, 2:37 PM
What I like least about the Bays Precinct today
- fairly uninspiring caryards (although I do like that the caryards are low-lying developments)
- poor transport in and around the precinct and surrounds (I guess, because of there being no public access)
What I don't want to see when the site is developed:
- foreshore privatised and developed with 'luxuxy' anything, whether houses or marinas. Sydney is already too exclusive a city. Furthermore, this used to be a working-class area, until relatively recently, and it would be nice, in addition to maintaining equity of access, to pay some respect to that aspect of Sydney's heritage.
- development options that do not aim to bring ecological improvement to the area
- another Darling Harbour - a hollow, tourist-focused amusement park.
Comment 6 19 Jul 2009, 9:32 PM
The lost opportunity to walk and cycle on flat, traffic free land from Balmain to the City via the Glebe Island Swing Bridge.
The lost opportunity to join the Cooks River to Iron Cove Bay Greenway project with the City on an almost flat, traffic free route.
The loss of commercial freight traffic when there are wharves and a rail line close to where the consumption of the goods actually takes place.
The division of neighbourhoods by the current road and rail networks.
Comment 7 31 Jul 2009, 11:11 AM
I don't like trying to get out onto Victoria Rd in the morning to get to work. If the cruise terminal is to be ongoing we need a plan to move these people from White Bay into the CBD without more congestion on our already stressed roads. The light rail will need to provide a stop to transport these people after they alight from the ships.
My other dislike is trying to park at Woolworths to do your grocery shopping - we badly need another large supermarket with decent shopping for the peninsular residents. In 18 months the upgrade of Birkenhead point will be finished, then we will be a 5 minute drive to what I hope will be a really decent local shopping centre without the Balmain prices.
